Crafting for Host of the West Reputation and Gear
With Update 20, three new reputations factions were introduced. These factions offer new gear and upgrades. Reputation is earned through tokens dropped by mobs or earned as quest rewards. The tokens can also be obtained in exchange for crafted items. When you achieve sufficient reputation with a faction, those same tokens can be bartered for gear and upgrades. This post focuses on the crafting that can be done to get the reputation tokens.
Host of the West factions
The three new factions are called Host of the West: Armour, Host of the West: Weapons, and Host of the West: Provisions. (I will refer to them as HWArmour, HWWeapons, and HWProvisions.) All three operate in the same way. Each has two reputation tokens. One is worth 100; the other is worth 500. Note that these factions are separate from the Host of the West faction in North Ithilien.
|Faction||100 Token||500 Token|
Right-clicking on a reputation token consumes it and converts it into reputation. Alt-right-clicking on a stack of tokens brings up a dialogue box allowing you to specify how many of the tokens you want to use at once.
Reputation levels in the factions have the usual values:
|Level||Rep from previous level||Total to reach level|
It would take a long time to reach useful reputation levels if you relied only on drops and quest rewards. Fortunately, you can get many tokens by crafting.
The earlier Host of the West faction has had additional levels added above Kindred.
|Level||Rep from previous level||Total to reach level|
As discussed below, reaching higher levels in the Host of the West faction allow you to barter for recipes that can be used to craft items for the three factions.
Crafting for Reputation Tokens
Similar to how so-called “crafted relics” work, you do not craft the actual tokens. Instead, you craft an item that can be exchanged for the reputation tokens. That simplifies the recipes to some extent, since the same crafted item can be exchanged for tokens in any of the three factions. Unlike crafting relics, the crafted items are not bound.
Each of the craft professions (excluding Prospector, Forester, and Farmer) has two Anorien tier recipes by default. One is a daily recipe (cooldown of 18 hours), the other a weekly (cooldown of 6 days 18 hours). Another weekly recipe and a 3-day recipe can be obtained from the Host of the West Quartermaster.
There are also single-use recipes dropped by mobs. The single-use recipes are like the weekly recipe, except they have no cooldown and, of course, they consume the recipe when used.
For each craft, there are two possible items created, depending on the recipe and crits while crafting. One item corresponds to the 100 reputation token; the other, to the 500 reputation token. The names of the items are long and potentially confusing. The 100 items are shown as teal; the 500, as gold.
|Profession||100 Crafted Item||500 Crafted Item|
|Cook||Bundle of Dagorlad Provisions||Bundle of Rangers’ Provisions|
|Jeweller||Set of Polished Onyx||Set of Refined Onyx|
|Metalsmith||Set of Gondorian Armour Reinforcements||Set of Rangers’ Armour Reinforcements|
|Scholar||Collection of Dagorlad Artifacts||Restored Collection of Dagorlad Artifacts|
|Tailor||Set of Gondorian Garments||Set of Padded Gondorian Garments|
|Weaponsmith||Set of Gondorian Weapon Parts||Set of Refined Gondorian Weapon Parts|
|Woodworker||Set of Gondorian Woodcrafts||Set of Fine Gondorian Woodcrafts|
Each recipe takes some number of a profession-specific ingredient found in the Wastes.
|Cook||Cap of Evengleam||Rare landscape node|
|Jeweller||Piece of Dagorlad Onyx||Dagorlad Scrap Deposit|
|Metalsmith||Dagorlad Armour Scrap||Dagorlad Scrap Deposit|
|Scholar||Relic of the Battle Plain||Lavish Dagorlad Chest|
|Tailor||Bolt of Rush-cloth||Only drops and quest rewards|
|Weaponsmith||Dagorlad Weapon Scrap||Dagorlad Scrap Deposit|
|Woodworker||Bundle of Reclaimed Ithilien Lumber||Gnarled Branches|
They also drop from mobs and are given as quest rewards. Tailors and Cooks have a severe disadvantage. The other professions can find their ingredients in common nodes on the landscape. For cooks, there are a very few Cap of Evengleam nodes on the landscape. For tailors, there is no source besides mob drops and quest rewards. If a quest or box gives you a choice of item, always pick Cap of Evengleam or Bolt of Rush-cloth. If you can’t use them, sell them for gold on AH or trade them for multiples of the more common ingredients.
The weekly, single-use, and 3-day recipes also need a Rangers’ Journal that corresponds to the profession. The daily recipe can optionally take a Rangers’ Journal to guarantee a crit. (Technically, it adds 80% to the crit chance, but higher-level tools will provide at least 20% to make it a certainty.)
|Cook||Rangers’ Journal of Dagorlad Cookery|
|Jeweller||Rangers’ Journal of Dagorlad Jewellery|
|Metalsmith||Rangers’ Journal of Dagorlad Metalsmithing|
|Scholar||Rangers’ Journal of Dagorlad History|
|Tailor||Rangers’ Journal of Dagorlad Tailoring|
|Weaponsmith||Rangers’ Journal of Dagorlad Weaponsmithing|
|Woodworker||Rangers’ Journal of Dagorlad Woodworking|
The journals can drop from mobs and nodes. They can also be bartered for 25 Phials of Golden Extract plus 25 Phials of Violet Extract from the Herbalist (40.9s 10.4w). A relatively few minutes of picking flowers will get you the journal of your choice.
Getting the journal is the most time-consuming part for the professions that have easy access to their ingredients.
In addition to the items described here, the recipes take some ordinary ingredients appropriate for the profession, such as Anorien Ingots, Brushed Anorien Leathers, etc.
The daily recipe takes 2 of the Wastes ingredient. Normally, it will produce 5 of the 100 crafted items. If it crits, it will produce 3 of the 500 crafted items. With Westemnet tools, the crit chance is 30%. If you do it every day, on average you will get crafted items worth 5600 per week, versus 3500 for the weekly recipes.
The weekly recipe you get by default takes 10 of the Wastes ingredient and a journal. It always produces 35 of the 100 crafted items, for 3500 rep per week.
The single-use recipe dropped by mobs takes 10 of the Wastes ingredient and a journal. It always produces 7 of the 500 crafted items, which is 3500 per recipe.
Bartered Weekly Recipe
If you have reached Honoured level with the Host of the West, you can barter for an additional weekly recipe for 80 Host of the West Silver Pieces from the Quartermaster (40.9s 10.4w). This recipe is similar to the default weekly recipe. It takes 10 of the Wastes ingredient and a journal, but always produces 7 of the 500 crafted items (instead of 35 of the 100 crafted item) for 3500 rep per week. Its cooldown is separate from the other weekly recipe.
If you have reached Celebrated level (max rep) with the Host of the West, you can barter for a 3-day recipe (cooldown 2 days 18 hours) for 80 Host of the West Silver Pieces from the Quartermaster (40.9s 10.4w). This recipe takes 6 of the Wastes ingredient and a journal, and always produces 6 of the 500 crafted items. Although it uses more journals, over time it produces twice the crafted items that the weekly recipes do, making 6 items every 3 days instead of 7 items every 7 days.
Using the Crafted Items
The crafted items you make are not bound, so can be bought, sold, or traded. To use them for reputation or to barter for gear, you will need to visit the particular faction representative to convert them to reputation tokens. The faction barterers are in the Camp of the Host near 40.0s 10.7w. Reputation tokens are bound to account.
There is no way to barter multiple items at a time. Fortunately, you can click the barter button rapidly without being told to slow down. The 100 crafted item can be bartered only for a 100 rep token; the 500 crafted item, only for a 500 rep token.
Converting for Reputation
A rep token can be converted to reputation for its faction by right-clicking on it. If you alt-right-click on a stack, it will prompt you for how many of the items you want to use at once.
There is a significant option to consider when using the rep tokens for reputation. Reputation acceleration tomes allow you to get twice the reputation from the item when you use it. Using a reputation acceleration tome adds matching reputation to a bar at the bottom of the reputation panel. Any reputation you gain with any faction will be doubled until the matching reputation is consumed.
A Small Reputation Acceleration Tome that gives 1000 matching reputation is available from the Skirmish Camp Curiosities Vendor for 250 Marks plus 25 Medallions. Because they are unbound, you may also be able to buy them on AH. There is also an Enhanced Reputation Supply available in the LOTRO Store, but the price seems high. Since you save ingredients, journals, and time for recipe cooldowns, using reputation accelerators can be worth the cost.
Converting for Gear
When building your reputation, 5 of the 100 rep tokens are exactly the same as 1 of the 500 rep tokens. However, a piece of gear will require a specific number of each rep token. For example, a gold pocket item needs 80 Metal Scraps (HWArmour 100 token) and 20 Armours (HWArmour 500 token). When you use them for reputation, be sure you are saving the right ones you’ll need to barter later.
Although the crafted items are unbound and can be bought, sold or traded, the reputation tokens are bound to account. Although the crafted items can be turned into the corresponding token for any faction, once they are converted, they cannot be changed into a different faction’s token.
To avoid ending up with tokens you can’t use, wait to convert crafted items to rep tokens until you know how you want to use them. Extra crafted items can be saved or sold or traded to other players.
Selling Crafted Items
Because there are players with more gold than patience, there is a business opportunity to make and sell crafted items. Even a low-level but high-tier crafter (I have an Anorien tier Westemnet guild level 24 crafter) can use the default or drop recipes if supplied with the ingredients.
There are four crafting instances that provide things for crafting reputation. Skoironk and Towers of the Teeth each have a solo version and a fellowship version. Skoironk has a number of Dagorlad Scrap nodes, and Towers of the Teeth has a number of Lavish Chest nodes. Since those nodes are easy to find in the landscape, they are not a major reason to run the instances.
All four instances drop Wastes ingredients, journals, and recipes from mobs. The fellowship instances have more mobs that are more powerful, but also a significantly higher drop rate.
You enter the instances from the quest givers at the camp before the Black Gate. The instances have a one hour time limit for the boss quest. You must defeat the boss, exit the instance, and turn it in before the timer expires. On entering the instance, you get two side quests. Those quests are not timed, so even if you fail the boss quest, you can complete them. They allow you to choose 3 of whichever Wastes ingredient you like as a reward.
At the boss location, there is a Strongbox that offers a quest. To complete it, you must have a Set of Brittle Lock-picks obtained from the Herbalist for 20 Golden plus 20 Violet extracts. Completing the quest consumes the lock-picks. It gives you Host of the West Silver pieces and some Ithilien Essence Fragments. The solo instances also give you a Small Box of War Materials containing 3 of the 100 tokens. The fellowship instances gives you War Materials, which contains 2 of the 500 tokens.
by Michaleo on 2017-05-02 08:50:37
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